Thursday Group Work - Part C

thursday group work - part c

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The students work through their understandings of congruent triangles, the triangle postulates, parallel lines, transversals, and other geometric properties to apply those to create proofs for the quadrilaterals. Making sure the proofs are rigorous (including all steps necessary) is a challenge of any geometry class. Students struggle with how thorough and precise a proof needs to be. The students move between group work and whole class interaction throughout the lesson. In small groups, the students discuss and debate proof arguments. At selected times, the teacher pulls the class together to share findings, ideas, or sample justifications. After sharing ideas or arguments with the entire class, studentsthen return to working in their small groups. The teacher illustrates how to use selected otation in a proof as students work through the logic and reasoning. Instead of a more traditional approach to teaching mathematics, where the teacher presents mathematical notation and format up front, in this class the sharing of how to communicate, using mathematical symbols, occurs when learning situation arises. Once the group has worked through the reasoning of the proof, the teacher checks in with the group and instructs them to begin designing a poster that will display the proof they had created. Groups are instructed to design a poster that contains a drawing of the figure, the conjecture of what is to be proved, a list of the given from the conjecture, and what needs to be proved. The students can use a two column or a flow chart format of the proof.

thursday group work - part c

9th & 10th Grade Math - Properties of Quadrilaterals
Cathy Humphreys, Fremont High School, Fremont Union High School District, Sunnyvale, California

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CATHY HUMPHREYS: I have to interrupt you. You are doing such a good job of (inaudible). What I want to do though is that I want us to have a model so we know what to do. And then you’re going to get to choose whatever shape you want and try to prove it. So there are a couple of things before we start. This is another thing I learned from your tests. Um, on your tests there were um, there were several problems where the vertices were labeled and people would talk about angle C. So why might that be a problem? Why might that be a problem? Sage, why?

STUDENT: There is more than one angle C.

CATHY HUMPHREYS: How many angle C’s are there?



STUDENT: There are three.

CATHY HUMPHREYS: There are three? Three? Okay, so here’s an angle CDCA, ACB, and where is the third one?


CATHY HUMPHREYS: Yes, exactly. So what you’re going to need to do is be really clear about which angles you are talking about. Alright, um, so this table, five has volunteered to walk us through this. I think in order to…normally I would have you up here writing but in order to expedite the time so everyone has time to get started, I’m going to record for you. Now the rest of us are going to be sure we ask them a question if we don’t understand. This is a very hard thing to do, really because if we don’t understand something we think it’s, it might be us. Like, we just don’t get it and we’re the only ones that don’t get it and that happens a lot in math. But I want you I’m going to have you stop periodically and talk about what the group has said and see if you agree with it. Alright. You know what, maybe I should have you come up and do it. You’re as fast as I am. So who’s…who wants to start? Drew, you’re going to start?

STUDENT: This is B.

CATHY HUMPHREYS: Drew, I know it’s hard to write with your back to the white board but can you try and do that.

STUDENT: I’ll try. Um, so first is triangle CED and triangle AB. I didn't give myself enough space. AB, yeah and that’s because of side, angle, side. Because you have this angle and this angle are congruent and then side one, angle one, side two; and side one, angle one, side two. So then you know that this angle and this angle are congruent. So you have angle - CPCTC.

CATHY HUMPHREYS: Would you read those out loud?

STUDENT: Which part out loud?

CATHY HUMPHREYS: Just say angle...

STUDENT: Angle DCE is congruent to angle BAE which I also marked on the parallelogram. And because of the CPCTC, which I prefer. And then um...because these two are congruent in other alternate interior angles if you use AC as the transversal for lines or segments – sides whatever, AB and DC. So AB is parallel to DC because of alternate interior angles. And you'll have triangle BEC congruent to triangle DEA and that’s also because of side, angle, side. So it’s side two, angle two, side one; and then over here is side two, angle two, side one. And then, you know because they’re congruent, their corresponding parts are congruent to CPCTC again. So then you have angle EAD congruent to angle...oh no, I used a different one, oh well. I’ll just remark it. Anyway, so it's CPCTC and then again because of alternate interior angles, you can use AC as a transversal for sides AD and BC. So you have AD parallel to BC through alternate interior angles.

STUDENT: Good job Drew!

CATHY HUMPHREYS: So what I would like you to do now is talk in your groups about the flow of logic through Drew’s proof and see if there's anything missing. And so would you please talk over ̶ what did you think he might be missing or is it perfect?

STUDENT: Do you think he did it in a longer way or how do you do it in a longer way? Does that mean you have to prove that every single triangle is congruent?

STUDENT: No, if you have both the long as you have two pairs of parallel sides then it’s a quadrilateral.

STUDENT: Didn’t he label the angle wrong on number five?

STUDENT: Some of them aren't corresponding.

STUDENT: Actually shouldn’t it be ECB not BCE; it should be like ECB.

STUDENT: We at least got the right concept.

STUDENT: Is there a shorter way to do that?

STUDENT: I don’t think so. As long as you prove two triangles are congruent…I mean no.

STUDENT: You mean two pairs of parallel sides.


STUDENT: What if you...

STUDENT: It should be BAE huh?

STUDENT: What if you did prove triangle BCB and triangle BAD then can’t you just do it in three steps?

STUDENT: That’s what I thought you guys were doing at first.

STUDENT: Oh, I don’t know.

STUDENT: But how would you prove it?

STUDENT: Don't you have to use the addition property to make sure that BE is congruent or DB is congruent to AC…wait a second.

STUDENT: DB is congruent to itself.

STUDENT: Wait, I’m looking at two. Wait, what triangle are you trying…?


STUDENT: Oh I was looking at CAD and DBC and AEB.

STUDENT: Actually you couldn’t do that because you wouldn’t have a second side or a second angle.

CATHY HUMPHREYS: You can use the other two and I think that’s what he did, didn’t he? So he’s okay. He used the same angle but he used the different sides of it?

STUDENT: He used the same transversal.

CATHY HUMPHREYS: I see! Yes, he used the same transversal.

STUDENT: It’s just like our proof but ours is...

STUDENT: Really long?

STUDENT: Ours is really long.

STUDENT: We can prove it when we’re talking in a paragraph but then when we are writing it down, it’s like his because it’s a lot shorter. Wait, Ms. Humphreys, Ms. Humphreys do you think if we do two columns we have to write like given, given, given like all that stuff? Wait, because - Ms. Humphreys if we do a two column do we have to write, do we have to write two sides are opposite and two sides are parallel...two opposites of parallel we have to write all that stuff?

COMMENTARY BY CATHY HUMPHREYS: Although a wonderful conversation is happening here between Omer and Jerry, I was struck by Julie’s absence in this conversation. Even though she was the one who had the idea to use alternate interior angles as well as the idea of proving triangles congruent, once Omer and Jerry understood her idea they were off and running on their own again. Their eye contact and body language was for a group of two, not three. This raises many issues for me –questions, for example, about the gender equity in this class (even though it is my class!). I know that the boys were not intentionally selfish or mean-spirited, but the result was that Julie was excluded from most of the group work. This clip highlights the necessity of building better group skills. It also made me want to teach interrupting as a skill to be used when necessary. I heard Madeleine Albright talk about how difficult it was at first for her as Secretary of State because women generally do not interrupt, while men do so freely. I think not only Julie, but Omer and Jerry as well would have benefited from a little interrupting so that she would become an intrinsic part of the group.

This clip also makes me wonder: would assigning the group roles and structuring the group work around those roles have mitigated what happened here?

Another thought I have is that perhaps this task would have been better as a partner task; when people are trying to wrap their heads around a logical path, four people’s inputs can make it harder. With partners, there would be more for each person to do and less ideas to form into one coherent argument; this would ensure more equal participation and hence more learning.

COMMENTARY BY COACH DAVID FOSTER: Students developed a deeper understanding of congruent triangles and parallel lines in applying that prior knowledge to this new situation of proving certain quadrilaterals are formed from the formation of diagonals. Students would work through their fleeting understanding of triangular postulates (SAS, ASA, etc.) to use those geometric building blocks to make their proofs. Cathy used students’ partial proofs to improve the students’ understanding and skills with making rigorous arguments. She stopped the group work and had the class hear from a student as she explained how to make the proof complete and valid. Students sharing their work and ideas with the entire class are an effective instructional technique to deepen students’ knowledge and improve their work products. Cathy introduces conventions and notation as the students explore mathematical ideas. This technique of waiting for “just in time” information is more conducive to learning. Too often teachers give students a lot of up front information that students often forget or never use. This “just in time” methodology is more aligned to how students learn. As she moved from group to group, Cathy checks to make sure the students’ reasoning were sound and that there were no holes in their logic. Occasionally she presses on students to explain their thinking or check out an error or faulty assumption. She then would advise the group to start to design a poster that would contain the proof of the quadrilaterals they selected. Most of the groups selected a two-column proof instead of the flow chart format.