Lesson Part 2a

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Mia Buljan’s 3rd-grade students use manipulatives to help them with a multiplication/division equal-grouping-scenario problem following a structure similar to that of this word problem (one of the problems available to the students for today’s activity): “Sam's dad bought 24 hot dogs for Sam and his 3 friends. How many hot dogs can each of them have?”

lesson part 2a

3rd grade math - interpreting multiplication & division
Mia Buljan, Glassbrook Elementary School, Hayward Unified School District, Hayward, California

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Lesson Part 2a

MIA BULJAN: Your job is to read it, make sense of it, and solve it. So you're going to need a tray and your math bag to do that. Celine and Samantha are going to pass out trays. Everybody else, I'm going to come by and you're going to pick a card, any card.

STUDENT: Sally bakes, baked the fifteen cookies. She put them in three, uh, three bags. How many bags did she make? Put these together. And one more three.

OBSERVER: Can you explain how it works?

STUDENT: I put them in threes because I know three times five equals fifteen. So I put them in three, so I'll put them all together. So I put my answer forty-five. And this one. All right. Done with it.

OBSERVER: Can you read your problem?


OBSERVER: Can you read me the problem?

STUDENT: Okay. It says right here Sam's dad bought 24 hot dogs for Sam and his three friends. How many hot dogs can they each have?

OBSERVER: Can you explain your model?

STUDENT: Um, I just go like, these are the 3 friends, and this is Sam. And I have 24 cubes here. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5... (Counting) Each one got six.

STUDENT: Debbie wants to give her 5 friends 4 balloons each. How many balloons must she buy?


STUDENT: So I just, this is the 5 friends. These are the 4 balloons. So I just did 4, 8, 12, 16, and 20. So.

STUDENT: Sally bakes 15 cookies. She put them in, put them, bags of...3 bags of cookies in each, um, 3 cookies in each bag. And how many cookies did she make?

ERIKA ISOMURA: Okay. And explain your model there.

STUDENT: It's because she has 15 cookies. So I have 3 cookies in each bag. So I think if I have 15, how many bags should I use? So instead I used 5 boxes. It works. So it might say 3 * 5 = 15. And that's how I got my answer.

MIA BULJAN: 7 friends and you're giving them 8 pieces of candy? What did you decide?

STUDENT: That, so when I put them all like that? Then I had 8 on each.

MIA BULJAN: So tell me what these flats are again?

STUDENT: The friends.

MIA BULJAN: And how many friends were there?


MIA BULJAN: And you're giving them how many hot dogs?


MIA BULJAN: Eight. And do you want to get a piece of paper and write down what you did? Okay.

STUDENT: Where are the papers?

STUDENT: Over there.

MIA BULJAN: We just put them somewhere.

MIA BULJAN: What number are you making? When you make two 10s and 4 blocks, which number are you making?


MIA BULJAN: And does it say to make 24 in your problem? 24 what?


MIA BULJAN: 24 cents. Okay, show me what that would look like. Oh, he got a different answer. Can you two work together?

STUDENT: He has the same problem as me.

MIA BULJAN: He did it slightly differently. Can you guys get together and talk about what you think the problem means? Take your trays down to the carpet and work together.

MIA BULJAN: What are you thinking?

STUDENT: So I have 24 here and then I put one on each one, to make sure how much I have.

ERIKA ISOMURA: Can you read the question real quick?


ERIKA ISOMURA: Would you read the question?

STUDENT: Which one, this one?

ERIKA ISOMURA: Yeah, just read that.

STUDENT: Sam's dad bought 24 hot dogs for Sam and his 3 friends. How many hot dogs can they each have?

STUDENT: There, there's eight on each one.

STUDENT: Yeah, but where's Sam?

STUDENT: It does count Sam, because it says here, Sam's dad bought twenty-four hot dogs for Sam and his three friends.

STUDENT: Not on mine. It says, "How many hot dogs can they each have?"

MIA BULJAN: Read the part that came before that, Enmy.

STUDENT: Sam's dad bought twenty-four hot dogs for Sam and his friend, his three friends.

STUDENT: For Sam and his three friends.


STUDENT: Like this.

MIA BULJAN: Well Enmy, do you agree with his interpretation of the problem? Do you think it's just for his friends, or for Sam and his friends?

STUDENT: I have Sam and his three friends, and I have twenty-four here, and I just take each one on this one, this one.

STUDENT: Well, it's because I have twenty-four, it won't, I have some right here and it'll just be like one equal group that has the same amount like the other ones. That's why.

MIA BULJAN: So, you would want eight, eight, eight, and then Sam would be empty? Thank you. Okay, so Esbin? She's going to try it your way and see if it works, but I don't want you to tell her what you did, okay? Just let her try and figure it out. No coaching.

STUDENT: So, I'll put one like that.

STUDENT: That is right?

MIA BULJAN: You think that's the right way to interpret the problem? When you do it, what happens?

STUDENT: That, they'll have like, the same amount?

MIA BULJAN: Is it still eight for each person?

STUDENT: No, this time it's six.

MIA BULJAN: Okay. So when he first told you that, you thought it wouldn't work out. You thought, you thought someone wouldn't have the same?


MIA BULJAN: But now you think they have the same. So can you read the problem again and just think about both ways you did it, and what do you think the problem is actually asking you to do.

STUDENT: Um, that to equal kind of like Sam too? Like, to put his...

MIA BULJAN: So where in there do you think it's telling you Sam also?

STUDENT: Like, I think right here. Like, how many hot dogs can they each have to get, like have. So like, four like that.

MIA BULJAN: So you can definitely answer the question this way, but you definitely answered the other question, too. You said that there were eight and it worked, right? So my question is, where in this story does it say not just his three friends, but Sam?

STUDENT: Right there, like hot dogs for Sam and his friends, three friends.

MIA BULJAN: For Sam and his three friends. So I want you guys to think for a second. What would it have said if it wasn't going to include Sam? What would the wording be like?

STUDENT: It would just say for three friends.

MIA BULJAN: What do you think Esbin?

STUDENT: I think it would say um, Sam bought twenty-four hot dogs for his three friends.

MIA BULJAN: For his three friends. Okay. So the fact that it says Sam and his three friends told you to put those together? Okay. Well, it was super helpful. Um, go ahead and go back to your desks, we're going to do...

MIA BULJAN: There were several cards they needed to connect in this problem solving lesson. A word problem, a word form, and a number sentence are the three [kinds of cards] that I chose to focus on with this class. In this clip, I am struck by three things. The first is how reading comprehension might affect their math logic; the second is my role as what I call “a match maker”; and the third is how incredibly difficult it was for this particular group to connect the word-form cards to what they had done on their trays.

When I set up this problem solving lesson, I knew a few things about this class. I knew that they were very used to reading math stories, constructing them with tools on their trays, and explaining what they had done, because this is how most of our math block had been progressing. I also knew that the wording would be tricky for them, particularly on the division situations. I wanted them to focus on discourse — to explain their thinking to each other.

For these reasons, I chose to start with the word problems, because this is their wheelhouse and where they had the most access. I also chose to limit the cards to 7 or so situations. There are 32 students in this class, and I knew that I wanted to have more than one child working on the same problem, so that they could get into small groups and compare their strategies and come to an agreement about what the problem was asking.

The first thing I notice is that some students who are struggling with making sense of the word problem are possibly experiencing more of a reading comprehension fail, as opposed to a math-logic issue. When the videographer asks one student, for example, to read the problem he is solving, he begins to read the card and does well with the stem of the situation. But, as he approaches the question of the situation, his reading peters out, and he makes errors in reading the words. Small prepositions and pronouns aren’t necessarily going to interfere with a child’s ability to understand a narrative story, but they can make a huge difference in interpreting a problem solving situation. The student’s problem reads: “Sally bakes 15 cookies. She puts them in bags of three. How many bags of cookies did she make?” His reading falters over “bags of three” and comes out as “in three bags.”

We see how this affects his interpretation of the problem, as he actually goes with several ways of constructing the cubes. First, he uses three ten sticks to represent the bags, and gives each “bag” 5 cubes. He then creates a set of 45 cubes constructed three at a time (because, he tells us, “3 times 5 is 15”) and we watch him piece together the groups of three cubes into long trains of 15 cubes, for 3 groups of 15 and 45 total. Neither of these constructions quite captures the problem he is solving, but he has pulled out the 3, the 15, and knows there’s a relationship there, and he comes up with different iterations of what he knows about 3 and 15 together.